shivarajan
02-25 03:57 PM
Excellent idea !!. This wud save thousand of immigrants from a set of particular countries who undergo immense career ruining stress "every second" in their professional life unlike their counterparts from other countrie(s).
:)
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santb1975
12-03 08:31 PM
I will add in a 100$ for every 5000$ we raise as well
WaitingForMyGC
07-17 09:08 PM
Great JOB, IV. You are the best.
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nixstor
04-06 01:13 PM
In that case I would say go for PhD. Directly file GC under EB1 - no hassle no retrogression :)
Myth: Phd's do not automatically qualify for EB1
Fact/Reality: Lot of Phd's on the forum are in EB2.
Myth: Phd's do not automatically qualify for EB1
Fact/Reality: Lot of Phd's on the forum are in EB2.
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prabasiodia
03-06 05:43 PM
I've voted with my pledge.
Folks, if you’re replying/posting to this thread with your pledge, please also vote as it’ll help the IV Admins know exactly how much is being pledged. Otherwise, IV admins will be clueless (I think USCIS works that way, they have no idea about anything, that’s why we’re giving them this money to write a query.) :D:D:D
Folks, if you’re replying/posting to this thread with your pledge, please also vote as it’ll help the IV Admins know exactly how much is being pledged. Otherwise, IV admins will be clueless (I think USCIS works that way, they have no idea about anything, that’s why we’re giving them this money to write a query.) :D:D:D
senthil1
07-10 12:28 PM
FBI check delay is admin procedure so courts could take up the case. But per country quota is law.
Many persons used to say skills need to be basis for selection. But that is not applicable for GC processing. Here there is no selection from multiple candidates. In Labor and I140 they are checking that particular candidate is suitable for that position or not and also no US citizen is available for the job. If not they will reject the candidate. So they are not selecting based on Merrit as no compettion is there for the particular position. So it is just all the eligible persons will get GC. It is similar to all the high school passed candidates will get admission to college if seats are available but not based on marks but based on FIFO basis.
By FIFO based it is discriminatory but still unused other country quota is used in last quarter for India and China. So per country quota impact will be less if CIS uses all the 140K. Also they are not giving any one country preference or quota. So it is not outrageous compared to many other controversial laws. Law in any country is not perfect and even if perfect it will give more benefit to some group.
It is very difficult to win by lawsuit against any law unless that law is outrageous and impacts many persons. So best way is to try for another law to change a law. But just removing per country quota will give very less benefit especially for Eb3. Waiting time will reduce from 7 to 6 years for all countries. If per country quota is removed with recapture bill then waiting time for EB3 may reduce to 1 to 3 years for EB3.
I also personally think the lawsuit is the better way, especially in the election year.
It can produce one of the three results:
1> We Win... Everything is fine.
2> We Lose... At least the thing got settled and it is clear that the US can create discriminatory laws.
3> Force Congress & the US govt. to expediately state its stand & justify the stand on the per country quota limit in employment based immigration.
Everyone, I talked to including some lawyers, especially after 9/11, thought that nothing could be done about FBI check ups. But guess what, the courts decided in favor and required that FBI check ups be done in 6 months.
Second case would be about Guatanamo Bay prisoners. Even there, the courts decided the prisoners were protected by the US human rights laws.
The good thing about the US is the case gets settled/decided ASAP, and it would make sense to give the lawsuit a try.
Many persons used to say skills need to be basis for selection. But that is not applicable for GC processing. Here there is no selection from multiple candidates. In Labor and I140 they are checking that particular candidate is suitable for that position or not and also no US citizen is available for the job. If not they will reject the candidate. So they are not selecting based on Merrit as no compettion is there for the particular position. So it is just all the eligible persons will get GC. It is similar to all the high school passed candidates will get admission to college if seats are available but not based on marks but based on FIFO basis.
By FIFO based it is discriminatory but still unused other country quota is used in last quarter for India and China. So per country quota impact will be less if CIS uses all the 140K. Also they are not giving any one country preference or quota. So it is not outrageous compared to many other controversial laws. Law in any country is not perfect and even if perfect it will give more benefit to some group.
It is very difficult to win by lawsuit against any law unless that law is outrageous and impacts many persons. So best way is to try for another law to change a law. But just removing per country quota will give very less benefit especially for Eb3. Waiting time will reduce from 7 to 6 years for all countries. If per country quota is removed with recapture bill then waiting time for EB3 may reduce to 1 to 3 years for EB3.
I also personally think the lawsuit is the better way, especially in the election year.
It can produce one of the three results:
1> We Win... Everything is fine.
2> We Lose... At least the thing got settled and it is clear that the US can create discriminatory laws.
3> Force Congress & the US govt. to expediately state its stand & justify the stand on the per country quota limit in employment based immigration.
Everyone, I talked to including some lawyers, especially after 9/11, thought that nothing could be done about FBI check ups. But guess what, the courts decided in favor and required that FBI check ups be done in 6 months.
Second case would be about Guatanamo Bay prisoners. Even there, the courts decided the prisoners were protected by the US human rights laws.
The good thing about the US is the case gets settled/decided ASAP, and it would make sense to give the lawsuit a try.
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ps57002
09-08 07:10 AM
Just put up more flyers, printing more to hand out at a huge local event being held at temple near my place....we will be successful...i know it.
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vdlrao
03-09 02:11 PM
I want to contribute 25$ but when i click on the contribute link it says only 100$ minimum , please let me know how others have contributed 25$ ?? where did u click and how did you change to 25$ ?
See the top of this thread and you could find donate now. And go there pay through the paypal. Post here if you have any problem.
See the top of this thread and you could find donate now. And go there pay through the paypal. Post here if you have any problem.
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Marphad
12-03 03:23 PM
For us, life revolves around everything immigration. For IOs, its just a job to pay the bills. I wouldnt fault the IO...they are just doing their job & acting according to procedure. How many of us professionals keep track of EVERY SINGLE thing thats related to our industry. So keep that in mind while we criticize USCIS people.
If the company I work at, filed an intellectual bankrupcy and had become a big issue that I have to encounter in my day to day life, I would definitely remember that.
If the company I work at, filed an intellectual bankrupcy and had become a big issue that I have to encounter in my day to day life, I would definitely remember that.
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greatguy
12-20 11:01 AM
Not all members are loging in around this time. Admins, think of sending out emails requesting for funds.
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dtekkedil
07-04 07:01 PM
Can someone with a paypal account come forward and take over a fund? Anyone with a paypal account can donate any amount using a nickname and we can publish the nickname along with the amount donated on this thread. That way we have accountability and also have a better idea of how many flowers we can send. That person with the paypal account can then order the flowers on Saturday by the latest.
Others, if they want, can send the flowers on their own also.
Just a suggestion... If we can do this, I believe more people will come forward!
Anyone who has donated to IV should be able to do this...
Others, if they want, can send the flowers on their own also.
Just a suggestion... If we can do this, I believe more people will come forward!
Anyone who has donated to IV should be able to do this...
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kumarc123
07-10 03:23 PM
Hey you guys - ask not what someone else can do for you but what you can do for someone else...didn't JFK say something like that ;)
You are ABSOLUTELY correct in saying that all the forums mention EB2 and very little attention is shed on EB3. I wonder why! Is it because EB2 recepients are more actively involved on IV? Or because EB3 recepients are quieter? Both these situations lend themselves to the bias towards EB2. And ultimately lead to one thing - more being done for EB2. I am EB2 and believe you me - I'm not complaining.
Sadly though, the number of EB3 applicants is many many times the number of EB2. So, there's something to be said for participation and having your voice heard. It is no wonder then that we as a group are dismal at having our collective voices heard - we don't participate like our lives depended on it. And in this case our entire lives depend on what's going on...
So, instead of bickering and blaming, why don't we awaken the giant that is EB3 India and China and have them participate as well...maybe we'll be able to kill many many birds (country limits, DC rallies, contributions to IV and lobbying activities, phone call campaigns, letter campaigns...) with just one stone....just thinking out loud...that's all...
Any ideas?
Read your paragraph and you will understand who is complaining, the focus here is to get together as one whole EB community.
You are ABSOLUTELY correct in saying that all the forums mention EB2 and very little attention is shed on EB3. I wonder why! Is it because EB2 recepients are more actively involved on IV? Or because EB3 recepients are quieter? Both these situations lend themselves to the bias towards EB2. And ultimately lead to one thing - more being done for EB2. I am EB2 and believe you me - I'm not complaining.
Sadly though, the number of EB3 applicants is many many times the number of EB2. So, there's something to be said for participation and having your voice heard. It is no wonder then that we as a group are dismal at having our collective voices heard - we don't participate like our lives depended on it. And in this case our entire lives depend on what's going on...
So, instead of bickering and blaming, why don't we awaken the giant that is EB3 India and China and have them participate as well...maybe we'll be able to kill many many birds (country limits, DC rallies, contributions to IV and lobbying activities, phone call campaigns, letter campaigns...) with just one stone....just thinking out loud...that's all...
Any ideas?
Read your paragraph and you will understand who is complaining, the focus here is to get together as one whole EB community.
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brb2
02-04 11:58 PM
Having diversity AND country quota for skilled employment is affirmative action gone waco. EB skilled immigration is to allow businesses to hire foreign labor for jobs they can't find American Citizens. Now to restrict businesses to discriminate based on the country of birth is just riduculous. Next do Universities apply affirmative action to their international student recruitement?
Indians and Chinese make up the largest group of international students in Engineering and Science. US citizens make up less than 50% of those graduating in Science and Engineering in Master's and PhD programs. Now businesses should not be penalized if they can't fill their highly skilled jobs with Iranians and Tongans and any other ROW countries.
We have a diversity lottery for nationals of those countries who would not make it out on merit and need a leg up. There may be a few Indian consulting companies who favor Indians, but they are the people who pay wages and know best. Similarly just because Americans prefer to buy Japanese cars we can't create an "affirmative action" and prevent americans from buying Japanese cars. We can't prevent walmart from stocking chinese products. So why force employers not to hire Indians and Chinese through creating quotas for highly skilled jobs?
No meaningful immigration reforms can be achieved as long as skilled immigration is based on country quotas. Next we know there will be quotas for marrying foreigners to add to diversity. If you marry a mexican there is retrogression but if you marry a citizen of Vanuatu then green card is processed in ROW:)
I was just making my point how ridiculous it is to have quotas for skilled immigration but not for others including asylum cases.
How do you come to these conclusions what congress intended. AC21's main provisions were to recapture unused visas for certain years; extend h-1b beyond six years; allow someone to change a job after 485 pending for more then six months; allow unused visas to be allocated to oversubscribed countries on a quarterly basis rather then in the fourth quarter.
Above is what was changed. There was no lifting of country cap. If you go to the earlies visa bulletins listed; you will see that Dominican Republic at one time was retrogressed. I haven't looked at it in a long time but if someone goes to the historical visa bulletins pre ac21 then you may see significant movement in retrogressed countries in the fourth quarter of uscis fiscal year (july to september). This is what changed.
However, the ac21 part about unused visas only stipulated if in any quarter there were less applicants then visas available then spillover can happen in that quarter. However, as can be seen in 2005 that weasn't the case and there shouldn't have been spillover.
In another posting you mentioned that your employer doesn't care whether you are Indian or chines or pakistani or anything else. This is true they want you for your skill. However, how did you get into USA. Chinese generally go to school here and will work wherever they get a job. However, Indian nationals have designed a system to get their realitves here through h-1b. Selective recrutiing is performed to get fellow compatriates here that couldn't otherwise get here becuase they have no connections. I ask some of my clients how they get employees. They tell me they are sponsoring their classmates, their cousins, etc. for h-1b.
Therefore, you may think it is not fair; and perhaps it is not fair but perhaps government knows that certain systems have been designed and they value diversity.
In business definition a skilled worker is not someone with two years of experience, a bachelors or even a masters. A skilled worker is someone with substantial experience. That is 15 years and makes $200K to $300K. Employment base immigration is just an accomodation to allow a certain number of people into USA. In my mind it is just an accomodation or goodwill.
If the EB system was designd to attract the best and brightest minds; skilled worker definition or eb2 or eb3 definition would have a much different meaning and would follow business rather then USCIS definition. It would be much different. There would be no quota. It would follow normal business practicses. That is we, can't find a us citizen or greencard holder and we need you. In real business sens it would be an offer, acceptance and you would start in a couple of months. However, it doesn't follow normal business rules/practices because maybe the powers that be look at it as just an accomodation rather then a real necessity.
Indians and Chinese make up the largest group of international students in Engineering and Science. US citizens make up less than 50% of those graduating in Science and Engineering in Master's and PhD programs. Now businesses should not be penalized if they can't fill their highly skilled jobs with Iranians and Tongans and any other ROW countries.
We have a diversity lottery for nationals of those countries who would not make it out on merit and need a leg up. There may be a few Indian consulting companies who favor Indians, but they are the people who pay wages and know best. Similarly just because Americans prefer to buy Japanese cars we can't create an "affirmative action" and prevent americans from buying Japanese cars. We can't prevent walmart from stocking chinese products. So why force employers not to hire Indians and Chinese through creating quotas for highly skilled jobs?
No meaningful immigration reforms can be achieved as long as skilled immigration is based on country quotas. Next we know there will be quotas for marrying foreigners to add to diversity. If you marry a mexican there is retrogression but if you marry a citizen of Vanuatu then green card is processed in ROW:)
I was just making my point how ridiculous it is to have quotas for skilled immigration but not for others including asylum cases.
How do you come to these conclusions what congress intended. AC21's main provisions were to recapture unused visas for certain years; extend h-1b beyond six years; allow someone to change a job after 485 pending for more then six months; allow unused visas to be allocated to oversubscribed countries on a quarterly basis rather then in the fourth quarter.
Above is what was changed. There was no lifting of country cap. If you go to the earlies visa bulletins listed; you will see that Dominican Republic at one time was retrogressed. I haven't looked at it in a long time but if someone goes to the historical visa bulletins pre ac21 then you may see significant movement in retrogressed countries in the fourth quarter of uscis fiscal year (july to september). This is what changed.
However, the ac21 part about unused visas only stipulated if in any quarter there were less applicants then visas available then spillover can happen in that quarter. However, as can be seen in 2005 that weasn't the case and there shouldn't have been spillover.
In another posting you mentioned that your employer doesn't care whether you are Indian or chines or pakistani or anything else. This is true they want you for your skill. However, how did you get into USA. Chinese generally go to school here and will work wherever they get a job. However, Indian nationals have designed a system to get their realitves here through h-1b. Selective recrutiing is performed to get fellow compatriates here that couldn't otherwise get here becuase they have no connections. I ask some of my clients how they get employees. They tell me they are sponsoring their classmates, their cousins, etc. for h-1b.
Therefore, you may think it is not fair; and perhaps it is not fair but perhaps government knows that certain systems have been designed and they value diversity.
In business definition a skilled worker is not someone with two years of experience, a bachelors or even a masters. A skilled worker is someone with substantial experience. That is 15 years and makes $200K to $300K. Employment base immigration is just an accomodation to allow a certain number of people into USA. In my mind it is just an accomodation or goodwill.
If the EB system was designd to attract the best and brightest minds; skilled worker definition or eb2 or eb3 definition would have a much different meaning and would follow business rather then USCIS definition. It would be much different. There would be no quota. It would follow normal business practicses. That is we, can't find a us citizen or greencard holder and we need you. In real business sens it would be an offer, acceptance and you would start in a couple of months. However, it doesn't follow normal business rules/practices because maybe the powers that be look at it as just an accomodation rather then a real necessity.
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singhsa3
09-08 04:38 PM
You really are getting on my nerves now.
You are no future predictor... How can you say Strive Act is doomed?...
You as well as I know that we need just handful (probably four) of votes to pass this bill.
The rally is being done to lobby for the support. And if those undecided lawmakers come into our camp then we will win and you will LOSE!
Granted Native Americans were here first but at that time America was just a land inhabited by people and it was not a nation. A nation is defined as having the following characteristics (These are UN definitions)
1. Has space or territory which has internationally recognized .
2. Has people who live there on an ongoing basis.
3. Has economic activity and an organized economy. A country regulates foreign and domestic trade and issues money.
4. Has the power of social engineering, such as education.
5. Has a transportation system for moving goods and people.
6. Has a government which provides public services and police power.
7. Has sovereignty. No other State should have power over the country's territory.
8. Has external recognition. A country has been "voted into the club" by other countries.
So America was never a nation before it became America.
Regarding you second point about Columbus, Christopher Columbus was not here look for a promised land, he and other pioneers were here to find trading opportunities. Get your history straight, India was known for Spices and Gold at that time and the pioneer wanted a piece of it. Now India has nothing to offer, other then a piece of its humongous population.
Regarding your points about, starting a company, I have already answered them before
You are no future predictor... How can you say Strive Act is doomed?...
You as well as I know that we need just handful (probably four) of votes to pass this bill.
The rally is being done to lobby for the support. And if those undecided lawmakers come into our camp then we will win and you will LOSE!
Granted Native Americans were here first but at that time America was just a land inhabited by people and it was not a nation. A nation is defined as having the following characteristics (These are UN definitions)
1. Has space or territory which has internationally recognized .
2. Has people who live there on an ongoing basis.
3. Has economic activity and an organized economy. A country regulates foreign and domestic trade and issues money.
4. Has the power of social engineering, such as education.
5. Has a transportation system for moving goods and people.
6. Has a government which provides public services and police power.
7. Has sovereignty. No other State should have power over the country's territory.
8. Has external recognition. A country has been "voted into the club" by other countries.
So America was never a nation before it became America.
Regarding you second point about Columbus, Christopher Columbus was not here look for a promised land, he and other pioneers were here to find trading opportunities. Get your history straight, India was known for Spices and Gold at that time and the pioneer wanted a piece of it. Now India has nothing to offer, other then a piece of its humongous population.
Regarding your points about, starting a company, I have already answered them before
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deecha
08-10 10:07 AM
My case has some similarities, except marrying an American and divorce, but I was out of status for a long time and I thought there was no hope at all. One of my former clients offered me a job and sponsored my h1 of course. I went home and have my new h1 stamped and came back. I was out of status probably for more than two years. Now, I just got my receipt for July 2 485 application. My PD is April 2006. I'm read people are talking here that when you re-enter on a new h1, your previous out of status "status" will be irrelevant.
My opinion is that you should be fine. Just make sure that you've nailed everything down correctly on your G-325A.
My opinion is that you should be fine. Just make sure that you've nailed everything down correctly on your G-325A.
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abhijitp
11-29 06:16 PM
Here is something to read for you:
IV in 5/2006:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=948&highlight=manager%27s+amendment
About 4000 members, 2800 of which had not contributed anything, and even then IV managed to pull off this amazing feat.
This amendment was PASSED although the CIR bill failed to survive.
In other words, if there had been a bill only to address EB GC reforms, there was a great chance YOU would be able to file for your I-485 even if your PD was not current!
IV in 11/2007:
1) IV has 25000+ members.
2) The EB GC reforms proposed and passed as an amendment in mid-2006 are long overdue!
3) IV has gathered a lot of admiration and attention after the flower campaign/ SJ Rally-> leading to the July VB reversal, and of course the DC rally!
Even if 2500 of them pay $50 a month, IV would have a steady flow of $125000 a month for lobbying efforts.
Just imagine what IV could accomplish in the next few months, if only people realized how important it is for them to sign up for monthly contributions!
Think about it!
Thanks!
IV can do much more than it has already accomplished for us!
Please sign up for monthly contributions!
IV in 5/2006:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=948&highlight=manager%27s+amendment
About 4000 members, 2800 of which had not contributed anything, and even then IV managed to pull off this amazing feat.
This amendment was PASSED although the CIR bill failed to survive.
In other words, if there had been a bill only to address EB GC reforms, there was a great chance YOU would be able to file for your I-485 even if your PD was not current!
IV in 11/2007:
1) IV has 25000+ members.
2) The EB GC reforms proposed and passed as an amendment in mid-2006 are long overdue!
3) IV has gathered a lot of admiration and attention after the flower campaign/ SJ Rally-> leading to the July VB reversal, and of course the DC rally!
Even if 2500 of them pay $50 a month, IV would have a steady flow of $125000 a month for lobbying efforts.
Just imagine what IV could accomplish in the next few months, if only people realized how important it is for them to sign up for monthly contributions!
Think about it!
Thanks!
IV can do much more than it has already accomplished for us!
Please sign up for monthly contributions!
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Humhongekamyab
08-21 04:46 PM
Is this is correct then does it also mean that they will stop acception 485's on September 1st just like they tried and failed last year in July?
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GCNirvana007
08-18 01:57 PM
Yes, but it is not the receipt generation, it is the actual review of the case as per advertised processing dates. if your case is in the Processing Date window (based on your online receive date), then most likely your case is preadjudicated, and now is waiting for the visa in sequence of PD. Best of luck.
Just spoke to an IO from TSC, she said its the Filing date ( receiving date ) is what the processing time is based on
Just spoke to an IO from TSC, she said its the Filing date ( receiving date ) is what the processing time is based on
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chanduv23
04-11 10:50 AM
This is the sad reality. A lot of people applied using sub labor during the June and July fiasco. A lot of people made it through the July 15th deadline by atleast filing a 140 through sub labor.
Now USCIS is processing all these 140s and as they have old dates, they are becoming approvable.
As long as there are visas with old dates approvable - USICS will exhaust them. As long as USCIS exhausts old visas, DOS need not move the dates forward.
Now USCIS is processing all these 140s and as they have old dates, they are becoming approvable.
As long as there are visas with old dates approvable - USICS will exhaust them. As long as USCIS exhausts old visas, DOS need not move the dates forward.
Saralayar
07-17 07:01 PM
Proud to be a part of IV. IV give hope to legal immigrants when we lacked direction during crunch times.
ANother victory to the crown of IV. IV is Unique and Ultimate....
ANother victory to the crown of IV. IV is Unique and Ultimate....
dpuranik
12-20 11:04 AM
Just sent in my contribution $50 through paypal.
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