Redeye
08-14 06:19 PM
This guy posted six messages and he got so many green dots. I have only 3. May be it because I am EB3 . It rhymes.... :D
What some people forget on this forum is there was a guy not too long who was dying in six months and I am sure most of our situations are not so dire. Look we all will get GC, we are AOS pending it is a matter of a year here and a year there. But please do not fight like this, we are a community. We were one group before these VBs and now we fight amongst ourselves. It amazes me how the gora man is still able to divide and rule. Chill and relax....go watch olympics.
Ok, now give me some greens.I am EB3 and only green I can get is the dots.
For those who care to read...the fact that I am suggesting that people should port their priority dates before that door closes shows that I believe that people who have played by the rules (ie actually put in the 5 yrs experience or find a job with EB2 requirements) should get preference !!
I call this the plight of EB2 india because as the rules are set up, in theory, if majority of EB3 ported priority dates, then yes, EB2 with later dates would truly get the short end of the stick.
Having said that, the backlash against people like SunnySurya is unfair. From his perspective, he is right and the law grants him the right to sue if he feels so.
THe problem in these forums is that any mature discussion is not possible because any dissenting voice is soon suppressed with ad hominem attacks such as the gentlemen who wanted to buy me tickets to india.
Seriously, how much more immature can we get?
Even reading this discussion, NOT ONE PERSON has attacked the argument on a legal basis. INsults are aplenty though.
What some people forget on this forum is there was a guy not too long who was dying in six months and I am sure most of our situations are not so dire. Look we all will get GC, we are AOS pending it is a matter of a year here and a year there. But please do not fight like this, we are a community. We were one group before these VBs and now we fight amongst ourselves. It amazes me how the gora man is still able to divide and rule. Chill and relax....go watch olympics.
Ok, now give me some greens.I am EB3 and only green I can get is the dots.
For those who care to read...the fact that I am suggesting that people should port their priority dates before that door closes shows that I believe that people who have played by the rules (ie actually put in the 5 yrs experience or find a job with EB2 requirements) should get preference !!
I call this the plight of EB2 india because as the rules are set up, in theory, if majority of EB3 ported priority dates, then yes, EB2 with later dates would truly get the short end of the stick.
Having said that, the backlash against people like SunnySurya is unfair. From his perspective, he is right and the law grants him the right to sue if he feels so.
THe problem in these forums is that any mature discussion is not possible because any dissenting voice is soon suppressed with ad hominem attacks such as the gentlemen who wanted to buy me tickets to india.
Seriously, how much more immature can we get?
Even reading this discussion, NOT ONE PERSON has attacked the argument on a legal basis. INsults are aplenty though.
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dealsnet
11-13 12:27 PM
My H1B going to expire Jan 2008. I am not planning to renew it. My PD is current (india-eb2 2004 jan). I am planning to travel in March 2008. Do I can travel with AP, without valid H1B papers. ? Do I need to renew my H1B ?
Please reply.
Please reply.
rri195
07-18 03:24 PM
that's delivered date
It seems few applicants who mailed on 6/29 or 6/30 did got RD of 7/2
http://www..com/usa-immigration-trackers/i485-tracker1/
just wondering how ???
It seems few applicants who mailed on 6/29 or 6/30 did got RD of 7/2
http://www..com/usa-immigration-trackers/i485-tracker1/
just wondering how ???
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pbojja
06-12 06:06 PM
This is really sad that they count all dependents under employement category. USCIS should treat all categories in same way. Can't we raise this issue?
Thats a very good point , If they dont count the dependents in Family based cateogry , why are they counting in Employment Based cateogry . Again may be rules are different but we can defiently raise this question
IV what are your thoughts on this ?
Thats a very good point , If they dont count the dependents in Family based cateogry , why are they counting in Employment Based cateogry . Again may be rules are different but we can defiently raise this question
IV what are your thoughts on this ?
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marlon2006
06-09 11:14 AM
I think the idea is that we need to sell ourselves. I was the other day debating on www.cio.com and believe me, that was a tough exchange. Several US IT pros (mid management, engineering, etc) arguing that they are highly qualified and got laid off and cannot find a high paying job anymore. I had to sell myself and argue that our skills are needed, etc. I believe that we are still needed in this country and it is not all that easy to find "good" IT professionals. That's why we are here. However, I am very concious about the number of folks who Americans are willing to let in without hurting them.
"Demand" and "right" will work up to the point in which we don't irate Americans. America has been sympathetic to immigrants in good part thanks to the capacity that America has to accomodate us here. If an excessive number of immigrants get in and that alarm citizens, I can tell you this country will become as unsympathetic to immigrants as many European countries are.
LogicLife is doing a good thing by being so positive. Let's continue to sell our skills in a professional manner. Just be careful with the idea of "demanding" and "rights" though :)
So you guys are saying that because you are on a H1B you are working harder than others? Let me tell you that working hard does not guarantee your job. I have seen hard workers laid off left and right, be it US citizens, green card holders or H1Bs. In fact one of my GC friends said that it is a constant fear for him to be employed at all times, he was unemployed for 10 months after the dot com bust. That changed him completely, he said what will I do with my GC, can I feed my kids with a GC? I need a job. So it is everyone's perspective. I look at him and say at least you have a GC, he says at least you have a job. :)
I still think that GC is not a right. It is a privilege, as is a driving license. You have to pass the drivers test to get a license. Logiclife's message from centuries back about anyone being able to move to another country does not work in today's world. There were no visit visas needed to get to India or China for example in those years, but why is it a requirement to have a visa to visit India now? Things have changed.
BTW, I do think we should do what we can to improve the immigration process, but if nothing gets done its not the end of the world. We can "ask", "request" Congress to change laws. But surely you are not saying we "demand" for our rights to have a GC?
"Demand" and "right" will work up to the point in which we don't irate Americans. America has been sympathetic to immigrants in good part thanks to the capacity that America has to accomodate us here. If an excessive number of immigrants get in and that alarm citizens, I can tell you this country will become as unsympathetic to immigrants as many European countries are.
LogicLife is doing a good thing by being so positive. Let's continue to sell our skills in a professional manner. Just be careful with the idea of "demanding" and "rights" though :)
So you guys are saying that because you are on a H1B you are working harder than others? Let me tell you that working hard does not guarantee your job. I have seen hard workers laid off left and right, be it US citizens, green card holders or H1Bs. In fact one of my GC friends said that it is a constant fear for him to be employed at all times, he was unemployed for 10 months after the dot com bust. That changed him completely, he said what will I do with my GC, can I feed my kids with a GC? I need a job. So it is everyone's perspective. I look at him and say at least you have a GC, he says at least you have a job. :)
I still think that GC is not a right. It is a privilege, as is a driving license. You have to pass the drivers test to get a license. Logiclife's message from centuries back about anyone being able to move to another country does not work in today's world. There were no visit visas needed to get to India or China for example in those years, but why is it a requirement to have a visa to visit India now? Things have changed.
BTW, I do think we should do what we can to improve the immigration process, but if nothing gets done its not the end of the world. We can "ask", "request" Congress to change laws. But surely you are not saying we "demand" for our rights to have a GC?
ashishgour
09-17 02:37 PM
Mr.King wasting time even after Lofgren accepted her amendment....
And now one more from him...
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vjonline
03-29 03:55 PM
hey h1b_alex..very sorry to hear your situation. If you feel I am not asking for too much, can you name the company? That would help a lot of people who can avoid getting in trouble in the future.
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bondgoli007
11-06 03:35 PM
The intent of the H1B program is not to bring people in the country in "Anticipatory mode" as you put it. The intent of the H1B program had always been for US employers to hire foreign skilled workers "On-Demand" when no american is willing, qualified or able to do the said job. Prior to 1999, the visa cap was 65000/yr WITHOUT the extra master's degree cap we have now, and still visas were never totally used up for any year, certainly not on the first day. It is only after the advent of the IT consulting companies hoarding visas in "anticipation" of future jobs that the problems started. Without any restrictions on this kind of abuse, no amount of H1 visa increase would be sufficient. They are talking of raising visas to 130,000 right? Based on the FY 2008 applications, those visas would be used up in TWO DAYS!
IMHO, the intent of the H1B program is equally important than just loopholes (or not) in the letter of the law.
Well said...We are all here due to the H1B visa and I am Thankful for it. However the fact is there is some fraud that goes on. It surely is not be as much as anti H1 folks contend it is but there is some prevention that can be done.
The argument about anticipatory mode will not sit well with even most in this forum. The program is supposed to be on demand..If the visas are running out on first day, then the blame does go to the the anticipatory applications that eat up visas from actual engineers who have a job offers.
Sen Grassley is somewhat right...however, without any parallel reforms in the EB process, all his speech did was come across as simply anti H1. If he is really concerned about the H1 program and its potential benefit , he should be equally be concerned about the H1B employees who are in the EB Immi limbo. So far from his track record, I am not inclined to hold any hope that he will equally pursue EB reforms.
I totally agree with the post from WeShallOvercome....I absolutely feel the same way!
IMHO, the intent of the H1B program is equally important than just loopholes (or not) in the letter of the law.
Well said...We are all here due to the H1B visa and I am Thankful for it. However the fact is there is some fraud that goes on. It surely is not be as much as anti H1 folks contend it is but there is some prevention that can be done.
The argument about anticipatory mode will not sit well with even most in this forum. The program is supposed to be on demand..If the visas are running out on first day, then the blame does go to the the anticipatory applications that eat up visas from actual engineers who have a job offers.
Sen Grassley is somewhat right...however, without any parallel reforms in the EB process, all his speech did was come across as simply anti H1. If he is really concerned about the H1 program and its potential benefit , he should be equally be concerned about the H1B employees who are in the EB Immi limbo. So far from his track record, I am not inclined to hold any hope that he will equally pursue EB reforms.
I totally agree with the post from WeShallOvercome....I absolutely feel the same way!
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bkarnik
04-07 02:08 PM
Contributed $100. Keep up the good work and keep the fight going.
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nomad
07-16 02:11 AM
Signed petition yesterday.
Also, if you can, please try to post feedback about the show on CNN's website.
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Select Lou Dobb's show.
Also, if you can, please try to post feedback about the show on CNN's website.
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/cnntv/
Select Lou Dobb's show.
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goodluck
12-14 12:22 PM
No It was not a joke.
If you think you earn way more then go ahead and contribute more. I just put dollar amounts in front. Many desis here work at 55-65K per year and that is roughly $30 an hour. The ideas is get off your high horses and earn money through sheer labor to get the job of funds done. I see no problem with that.
Hey, dude, I hope that this was a joke :D
Because I doubt that anyone willing to wash my car for a few bucks is highly skilled. Personally, I prefer, give 1 day of salary - that's way over $25, and far more effective (I get paid more than $25 for the time it takes to wash a car).
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Huum, I rather thing that it was not a joke. No offense intended.
The dinner and movie is the best idea.
Actually I think that the other ideas to be "less than optimal", thus I thought they were a joke.
If you think you earn way more then go ahead and contribute more. I just put dollar amounts in front. Many desis here work at 55-65K per year and that is roughly $30 an hour. The ideas is get off your high horses and earn money through sheer labor to get the job of funds done. I see no problem with that.
Hey, dude, I hope that this was a joke :D
Because I doubt that anyone willing to wash my car for a few bucks is highly skilled. Personally, I prefer, give 1 day of salary - that's way over $25, and far more effective (I get paid more than $25 for the time it takes to wash a car).
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Huum, I rather thing that it was not a joke. No offense intended.
The dinner and movie is the best idea.
Actually I think that the other ideas to be "less than optimal", thus I thought they were a joke.
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mirage
08-19 04:28 PM
And that's never gonna happen. All Green Card seekers have stopped filing in EB-3, they are somehow managing to file in EB-2 by hook or by crook. So until congress changes any Law, every single spill over visa will be consumed by EB-2s and EB-3 India is not going to get a single spill over Visa...
1. I don't see any chances of getting any spill overs in the next two years.
2. There are only 3000 visas available for EB3-I in any given year (7% of EB3 quota). EB3-I will get few more if and when EB3-ROW gets current.
1. I don't see any chances of getting any spill overs in the next two years.
2. There are only 3000 visas available for EB3-I in any given year (7% of EB3 quota). EB3-I will get few more if and when EB3-ROW gets current.
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storm
08-24 07:06 PM
I'm not sure if there is another memo that superceded this one. I'm no legal savvy but can USCIS override a Writ of Mandamus just like that? Any legal experts around?
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gk_2000
04-20 04:43 PM
No cursing, name calling please.. You could have just ignored. You have done no favour to yourself by replying.
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Nathan is one of our valuable members, but with a bit of "angry Lakshman" in him :)
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Nathan is one of our valuable members, but with a bit of "angry Lakshman" in him :)
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06-17 01:58 AM
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gsc999
07-19 06:01 PM
Guys I am ready to pay my dues to core....If you want I can start a thread to track the payment only for the core members. Lemme know what do you think.
Zoooom & Anzerraja:
The core membership may be modest and may not want to speak out much on this issue. It becomes our prerogative to drive this.
Lets do this. Zooom do you mind opening a separate thread, "Reimburse past expenses to Aman & other IV Core members" or something like that. Please post a message asking people to "pledge" an amount towards that effort. Can you two drive this effort. I am also available for assistance.
We will update members who pledge how to finalize their pledge by any of the following methods based on subsequent expert advice:
1) Should they contribute to IV directly
2) Send a personal check to Aman.
3) Other method like IV reimbursing Aman and others from the common donation corpus.
Zoooom & Anzerraja:
The core membership may be modest and may not want to speak out much on this issue. It becomes our prerogative to drive this.
Lets do this. Zooom do you mind opening a separate thread, "Reimburse past expenses to Aman & other IV Core members" or something like that. Please post a message asking people to "pledge" an amount towards that effort. Can you two drive this effort. I am also available for assistance.
We will update members who pledge how to finalize their pledge by any of the following methods based on subsequent expert advice:
1) Should they contribute to IV directly
2) Send a personal check to Aman.
3) Other method like IV reimbursing Aman and others from the common donation corpus.
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renjuzone
07-17 01:11 PM
signed too. most ppl have no idea how racist he is! he will surely be flogged alive if he ever lands foot in mexico, china or india
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permfiling
12-13 11:43 AM
As there are now many people who are actively posting in the group. Identify and rotate the maintenance of the membership among these members on a weekly basis.
The ideas are good and in the past we have contemplated having a paid member area on IV site too. However the biggest problem we have is - who will manage it?
We all have full time jobs and already have our hands full. Adding anything extra to the current workload will be too much work for us.
Either we hire someone to do it. And to hire we need money. We find it hard to even raise money for Lobbying every other month. There are other important areas like publicity we can look at too if we get more funds. So we cannot hire anyone to manage this.
Now can someone volunteer for it? Yes but how many people come forward with a commitment in a 25k membership? You can see from the thread
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15289
So if people are not willing to make a commitment and have their spouses to help us from home for this cause, we cannot take our ideas any further. We can only do what our limited time, funds and manpower allows.
This is a reality and is the reason why we all do not have greencards till now. Solving this greencard issue is not difficult. Its only a matter of gathering enough people and people wanting to make an effort. IV has been around for 2 years now and only 25K people have signed up. We should have had about half million signups by now and millions of dollars to spend on large scale lobbying, media publicity and several initiatives to draw the attention of lawmakers on this issue. That has not yet happened and will not happen until we all indicate how badly we want greencards.
The ideas are good and in the past we have contemplated having a paid member area on IV site too. However the biggest problem we have is - who will manage it?
We all have full time jobs and already have our hands full. Adding anything extra to the current workload will be too much work for us.
Either we hire someone to do it. And to hire we need money. We find it hard to even raise money for Lobbying every other month. There are other important areas like publicity we can look at too if we get more funds. So we cannot hire anyone to manage this.
Now can someone volunteer for it? Yes but how many people come forward with a commitment in a 25k membership? You can see from the thread
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15289
So if people are not willing to make a commitment and have their spouses to help us from home for this cause, we cannot take our ideas any further. We can only do what our limited time, funds and manpower allows.
This is a reality and is the reason why we all do not have greencards till now. Solving this greencard issue is not difficult. Its only a matter of gathering enough people and people wanting to make an effort. IV has been around for 2 years now and only 25K people have signed up. We should have had about half million signups by now and millions of dollars to spend on large scale lobbying, media publicity and several initiatives to draw the attention of lawmakers on this issue. That has not yet happened and will not happen until we all indicate how badly we want greencards.
gm004
07-17 08:39 AM
Signed! Thanks.
I guess the Admins should take the thread to the headlines to get more signatures. Most of the members might not notice the little title in the side bar.
I guess the Admins should take the thread to the headlines to get more signatures. Most of the members might not notice the little title in the side bar.
asanghi
11-16 12:12 PM
Not sure if the social security taxes are for immigration benefits. Also, the taxes we pay are for several other services that we get in the US. Remember, even as non-citizens, we get millions of benefits such 911, clean roads, and the list will go on. Why do you think we want to immigrate?
I don't think this kind of an argument will hold any water with the press or lawmakers. There are other good arguments, and we should stick to them.
qplearn. You are right.
But as I have noticed, there is a lot of misinformation being spread around H1-B holders. One of those is that H1-B holders don't pay taxes. I have now read it at so many places, if I didn't know anything about H1-B visas, I would probably have believed it by now. So we really should make a point to mention that we pay taxes and social security.
I don't think this kind of an argument will hold any water with the press or lawmakers. There are other good arguments, and we should stick to them.
qplearn. You are right.
But as I have noticed, there is a lot of misinformation being spread around H1-B holders. One of those is that H1-B holders don't pay taxes. I have now read it at so many places, if I didn't know anything about H1-B visas, I would probably have believed it by now. So we really should make a point to mention that we pay taxes and social security.
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